tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2153983949078742556.post9155994288820262950..comments2023-10-20T06:14:52.781-04:00Comments on L.W.ROTH, ARTIST: Watercolor: The Subtractive Technique TestedLinda Rothhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02833417183469551153noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2153983949078742556.post-4613446509187346512011-04-09T09:48:22.313-04:002011-04-09T09:48:22.313-04:00I want to talk about the paper. I bought Strathmor...I want to talk about the paper. I bought Strathmore--five sheets 140lb cold press for twenty something dollars. I told my watercolorist friend who also teaches and she poo-pooed the quality of the paper--liked Reves best. I felt badly, but the paper had felt good, (sturdy, nice tooth), the price was not eighteen dollars a sheet like the 300lb, and who was I, but a stumbling know-nothing novice? <br />Meanwhile with all my heavy, stiff bristol rubbing, I haven't damaged the surface at all. When I used the brush the paper was dry. I only wet the brush and went after the areas I wanted to lighten. Then I ran the whole paper underwater and rubbed it with my hand for a couple of minutes--if I had left it soak for longer, I'm sure the surface would have become softer and softer and more vulnerable. How long before that happens, I don't know--but I'm curious. Afterwards, I took the dripping wet paper, slapped it on my board, wiped it nearly dry with toweling and taped it down. Then I let it dry completely overnight. And that's how it is now--waiting for me to decide what's next?<br />In one watercolor book I've read, the woman advised testing each of the colors in your palette for their properties. She said it was important to know which colors stained. Now I know why. She suggested making a chart. I'm a little impatient to do that, but maybe it's a good idea. I'll look that up and let you all know.Linda Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02833417183469551153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2153983949078742556.post-30067377577181959242011-04-08T20:47:44.503-04:002011-04-08T20:47:44.503-04:00Beautiful, I love what you have left. I recommend ...Beautiful, I love what you have left. I recommend that you accept as advised by Sadami, I know his watercolors and are excellent.Leovihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970831445283294241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2153983949078742556.post-34325807036861234052011-04-08T20:39:20.122-04:002011-04-08T20:39:20.122-04:00Dear Linda,
Yes!!
"My experimenting reveale...Dear Linda, <br />Yes!!<br />"My experimenting revealed that some watercolor pigments stain and can only be lifted up in value so far. Others do not stain and can be lifted off entirely." So, watercolorists use different paints that have the same color to get different results. Sink fast? Stay firmly? What else? --experiments reveal. Then, artists make their own palletes. So, it's very interesting to look at demo and check other artists' palletes. I know a famous waterclorist who has 3 or 4 blues and uses differently to make washes. Have fun and find your colors.<br />Cheers, SadamiSadamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15072887743830381833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2153983949078742556.post-79881103462215791192011-04-08T20:35:38.019-04:002011-04-08T20:35:38.019-04:00Interesting post. I must say that whenever I try t...Interesting post. I must say that whenever I try to lift off colours - I am not gentle enough, and my paper suffers. Practice will help, I suppose. I apprecite your experiment and seeing your photos. Happy Weekend, Ev<br /><br />ps. Spring will be there soon :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13755278209399870145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2153983949078742556.post-39699881049601413402011-04-08T14:43:38.887-04:002011-04-08T14:43:38.887-04:00My experimentation was an eye opener Nanina. I did...My experimentation was an eye opener Nanina. I didn't say in my post but I also went into the piece with some semi-soluble markers. They lifted too but not as much as the watercolor pigments. Thoroughly drying, masking, and painting again has now occurred to me. Such fun fooling around and pushing the envelope as they say.<br />Have a lovely weekend--hopefully the weather is better where you are than here.Linda Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02833417183469551153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2153983949078742556.post-43410751412697750552011-04-08T14:36:14.938-04:002011-04-08T14:36:14.938-04:00The subtractive technique is often connected to pe...The subtractive technique is often connected to pencil (graphite), charcoal, pastel. I use it rarely with acrylics. (There is a risk of weakening the adhesion of surrounding paint layers, so alcohol must be used sparingly and the area cleansed afterward). <br /><br />When the subtractive technique worked with watercolor I was pleasantly surprised. My experimenting also revealed that some watercolor pigments stain and can only be lifted up in value so far. Others do not stain and can be lifted off entirely. My paper did real well too given all the abuse it went through.<br /><br />You should know acrylics is my medium of choice. I was just playing around while my back was out. (I can sit with watercolors. I can't with acrylics; I must stand and dance). Cheers Sadami. Have a great weekend with your watercolor club. Your sketches always delight.Linda Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02833417183469551153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2153983949078742556.post-15304379708593493312011-04-08T14:08:56.369-04:002011-04-08T14:08:56.369-04:00Dear Linda,
Watercolor definitely lends itself to...Dear Linda,<br /><br />Watercolor definitely lends itself to experimentation. Wonderful effects crop up when you do what you are trying out on this piece. Reapplying color to those scrubbed out areas creates a luminous effect and tonal depth that's hard to achieve with washes alone on unbruised paper. <br /><br />Sadami's spot on. It is a matter of individual style and finding a method of manipulating watercolor that works for you. <br /><br />Thanks for showing how the painting looks as you experiment. There are lots of interesting colors developing.<br /><br />NaninaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2153983949078742556.post-18907117571851360872011-04-08T11:33:40.992-04:002011-04-08T11:33:40.992-04:00Dear Linda,
I'm not familiar with technical t...Dear Linda, <br />I'm not familiar with technical terms at all. In my eyes, you did, "wash-off" and "lifted up." <br />Depends on a style, a watercolorist's spending time in work is vary. But I do it in a very short time and fast. As far as I know, watercolorists who show washes make work in a short time. Just have fun. Me, too, make "tons of messes."<br />Kind regards, SadamiSadamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15072887743830381833noreply@blogger.com